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January 26, 2006 12:03 AM

Broken: Rose Bowl parking stub

Rosebowlticket_1Gary Edstrom writes in:

I received this ticket when I parked at the Rose Bowl in Pasadena for an event a few months ago. Notice at the top of the ticket that it has a place to write the area in which you parked. But at the bottom of the ticket is the statement that the ticket must be placed on the dashboard.

So what good is writing down your location on the ticket if you can't take it with you?

Please note that this is a single piece ticket. It doesn't have a detachable stub.



What does 'no in and out' mean?

Once you get out you can never get back into your car?

Or if you forget something in your car you can not come back for it? Is that inforceable? Is that even legal?

Posted by: blah at January 26, 2006 12:22 AM

It is my sincere desire to make each comment a memorable occasion.

I have no real comments until 30 minutes after viewing the post.

Posted by: gmangw at January 26, 2006 12:24 AM

Do keep in mind that it is their Sincere Desire to Make Each Event a Memorable Occasion. Obviously they succeeded in this case.

Maybe for their records they like to know which sections are parked in the most. But in my opinion the lot attendant should write that on the ticket.

What is most broken about this ticket are two conflicting statements that the ticket licenses 1)only ONE vehicle to enter and 2)only a license of SPACE is granted. Is space defined as 1)an area arbitrarily defined by lines/borders or 2)any area that my vehicle may consume?

So therefore if hypothetically my friend and I drive motorcycles to the parking lot we could take up the same amount of space as one SUV. But on the other hand the ticket only allows one motorcycle to enter. BROKEN.

Posted by: Confused Shopper at January 26, 2006 12:30 AM

"acceptence of this ticket constitutes acknowlegement by holder he has read and agrees to" How can you read and agree and acknowlege prior to it landing in your hand on its way to the dashboard? If you can't continue to hold the ticket, are you still the holder bound to the agreement?

Posted by: Miki at January 26, 2006 03:32 AM

Only in America would a ticket to park have so many terms and conditions/disclaimers

Over here (UK), you park up, put a few pounds into the machine, peel off the backing and stick it to your windscreen.

Then it's a simple matter of coming back before the time displayed on the ticket. We KNOW the car park takes no responsibility for anything that happens to our cars...

Posted by: Dan at January 26, 2006 05:09 AM

blah: No in and out privleges usually mean that you can't take your car off parking lot and come back at a later time, although the position of the statement makes it somewhat unclear.

I don't know what the purpose of writing down where you parked on a piece of paper that will be left where you parked. Sounds a bit silly.

Posted by: Jeff at January 26, 2006 05:29 AM

"... No in and out privleges usually mean that you can't take your car off parking lot and come back at a later time ..."

Although technically, what they really mean to say is "No out & in privileges."

Posted by: DaveC426913 at January 26, 2006 09:17 AM

Just like the terms and conditions, the 'write where you parked' was a feature added by one of the departments not responsible for designing the physical ticket.

Posted by: Josh Z. at January 26, 2006 09:21 AM

I realize that we live in a world where we have assistants'& assistance for every possible task we could think of performing, but are we as a culture so incredibly studpid as to not incurr logical conclusions at minor tasks/problems. From this post it is fairly safe to say that the instructions on a parking stub need to be explained, as well as needing to be told that the ticket is made of a mysterious and wonderful material called PAPER- which has such amazing properties as being able to be torn- for the sake of taking the needed information with you as well as being able to leave necessary information behind.-

Posted by: smartypants at January 26, 2006 10:43 AM

The "NO IN AND OUT" rule obviously refers to a

nearby hamburger stand named "In-N-Out Burger". :-)

Clearly they don't want the parking lot littered

with burger wrappers and empty drink cups.

Note for those who don't live in Southern California:

In-N-Out is a local institution with a fanatical

following. Founded in 1948, it now has over 200

locations and is still family-owned. The menu

is still the same as in 1948, but not the prices.

I've been a customer for 40 years and am always

pleased with their quality.

The only negative thing I can say is that the taste

of their french fries declined in the early 1970s

when they stopped using peanut oil to fry them in.

Not a lot, but just enough to notice.

BTW, I highly recommend getting your burger with

grilled onions. Yum!


Posted by: AlanF at January 26, 2006 11:30 AM

I'm pretty sure this "contract" is unenforceable, there are international treaties that prohibit "licensing space."

Declaring oneself "NOT RESPONSIBLE" is also a legal sham. Just like those trucks that say "Stay 200 Ft. Back - Not Responsible for Broken Windshields." Would it work if I hung a sign around my neck that said "Not Responsible for Murder" ?

Maybe they want to see if you are smart enough to figure out where you parked and note it correctly on the ticket, and they will check during the event and tow your car if you get it wrong. No parking for you!

If your recollection of a fantastic parking experience is the thing that made your event "a memorable occasion," you need much more help than is available here.

And, Alan is so right... In-N-Out RULES!

Posted by: Pat at January 26, 2006 12:34 PM

Okay, granted, they should have a separate stub. But maybe it's there to REMIND people to write it down themselves. Since many fans will be coming to the game already having a few it might get them to stop and say, "huh, I can't take this with me but maybe I should jot that down just in case." Anyone who has been left 'til the wee hours in an underground lot in LA searching for their silver Honda Accord can relate.

As for the guy who would tear the ticket, please read the back of the ticket which states "folding, binding, tearing, or otherwise altering this ticket in any way will result in penalty including death, 30 days in CA state penatentury or having to work with the team that designed this ticket, whichever strikes the whim of the court."

BTW, coming from NYC it's clear that "no in and out" does not refer to the "old" in and out practiced by the characters from Kesey's Clockwork Orange but refers to not being able to get back in without getting past the velvet rope.

Posted by: koz at January 26, 2006 02:02 PM

perhaps if Confused Shopper chained the bikes together thay would be considered a single vehicle.

Posted by: Banana Sam at January 26, 2006 02:09 PM

A Clockwork Orange was written by Anthony Burgess; movie was directed by Stanley Kubrick.

But the "old" in and out rules too!

Posted by: Pat at January 26, 2006 02:52 PM

A "pat" on the back and tip 'o the hat to you. I was confusing my "Cuckoos" with my "Clockwork." After coming back from the Rose Bowl and finding someone in your car doing the "old" you know what, you would be likely to mix your seventies references too.

Posted by: koz at January 26, 2006 03:30 PM

I think the people at the parking authority majored in astrophysics - taking up time and space. hehe.

Posted by: Confused Shopper at January 26, 2006 04:41 PM

"It is our sincere desire to make each event a memorable one."

Just don't soak in the memorable experience for too long (i.e. Texas Longhorns winning the National Championship), or we'll lock your car inside the gates overnight!

Ha Ha! Thanks for the memories!

Posted by: jackaroe at January 26, 2006 05:05 PM

"We close 30 minutes after end of event"

I have no idea how big the Rose Bowl venue is, but if it can accomodate 30 thousand or more fans, how do they expect everyone to leave in 30 minutes after the event?

Posted by: ah at January 26, 2006 06:48 PM

as my law prof said, "legaleze is another language that you must learn if you want to read contracts".

Posted by: Nathan at January 27, 2006 12:41 AM

Obviously the employees occasionally take cars out for joyrides (which does sometimes make it a memorable occasion for them) and want you to mark where you parked so they know where to return them. If you come back and they haven't returned yet, well, that's your problem. But you can opt out of this by locking your vehicle, thereby denying them "IN & OUT" access to your car.

Posted by: josh at January 27, 2006 01:45 AM

_@_v - mebbe they want you to mark the place you park then take apiccy of that space with yer cam-phone so you can look at the piccy when it's time to hunt for your car...

''hmmm... looks like i was in the 'turtle lot'...."


Posted by: shesnailie_@_v at January 27, 2006 12:59 PM

Great one Josh! That was hysterical, but also so true! Cell phone pic tip was a good one too... At my grocery store I always park in the same letter aisle no matter how far from the door it is and how bad it's raining. Saved my behind the day I bought a new car and went right to the store. Almost forgot what the dang thing looked like. Anyone want a license for the space that used to contain my brain?

Posted by: Poindexter T Quakenfuss at January 27, 2006 03:47 PM

This is classic This is Broken matterial!

Posted by: someone at January 27, 2006 05:18 PM

Think of it this way: the act of writing down your parking place would probably improve your memory of where you parked.

Posted by: WillF at January 28, 2006 05:13 PM

People, people...come on. The ticket clearly states "Ticket must be placed on dashboard". It says nothing about the ticket remaining on the dashboard. Put it on the dashboard until you find a space, write down the area, and take it with you. To make it a memorable occasion you really do need In-N-Out (both the "old" and the burger).

Posted by: Dan 420 at January 28, 2006 07:48 PM

No In & Out refers to that Kevin Kline movie from a few years ago. Why should they require someone to place the ticket on the dash anyway? Presumably, one wouldn't be able to enter without buying a ticket and passing through some sort of gate. Do they really have security wasting time examining all 30,000 vehicles on the lot to ensure that the tickets are placed properly on the dash?

Posted by: Chester the Molester at January 28, 2006 10:29 PM

What I'm confused about is the Lock Vehicle- No In and Out..

While I can understand locking the vehicle I don't understand what the In and Out part is about? does that mean you can't hop in and out of your car or what????

Posted by: infinity at January 29, 2006 04:13 PM

Actually most of the text on that ticket is a tad confusing.. even more confusing then most fine print legalize I've seen

Posted by: Infinity at January 29, 2006 04:14 PM

What do people who drive a motorcycle do with their ticket?

Posted by: Sean P at January 30, 2006 01:49 PM

um hello!!! they only want u to park in one space and not move from 1 parking lot to another

Posted by: confused shoper at February 11, 2006 10:03 PM

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